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In this powerful episode, Gobinath sits down with the legendary Ulaganayagan Kamal Haasan—a visionary who has not just acted in cinema but revolutionized it.
With fearless creativity, deep philosophy, and decades of reinvention, Kamal reflects on a life lived in service of art. From listening to the heart over algorithms to exploring aging, AI, acting, and mortality, this conversation dives into the mind of a master.
From listening to the heart over algorithms to exploring aging, AI, and the ethics of cinema, Kamal opens up about:
• His constant reinvention and evolution as an artist
• The humbling moments that shaped his self-awareness
• Learning from the ancients, yet daring to innovate
• Acting not as imitation but as raw, requested “misbehavior”
• Balancing perfection with beautiful imperfection
• Time, discipline, mortality—and the pursuit of artistic immortality
• The philosophies behind his cinema: for whom, and why
• The tension between market demands and meaningful messaging
• Minimalism, nostalgia, and the emotional universality of war and motherhood
• His Gandhian turn and his deeply underrated contributions as a lyricist
• Tamil’s rhythmic beauty and its global poetic power
• The role of cinema in shaping society and the next generation
• Corporate capitalism, global politics, and center-aligned balance
• Parenting, emotional intelligence, and legacy beyond screens
• His take on AI, knowledge, and the evolving boundaries of intelligence
• The behind-the-scenes genius of the technicians behind Thug Life
• And his reflections on the title Thug Life and its connection to Nayakan
Kamal also shares heartfelt memories from his childhood, honors icons like Sivaji, Kannadasan, Periyar, and Kalaignar, and lays bare what continues to drive his tireless journey as a creator.
This episode is more than an interview—it’s a philosophical masterclass, a celebration of art, and a tribute to the spirit of relentless curiosity.
A must-watch for cinephiles, thinkers, artists, and dreamers who believe in the power of storytelling to change the world.
00:00:00 - 00:02:42 - Show Highlights
00:02:43 - 00:03:11 - Show Sponsors
00:03:12 - 00:03:01 - Gobinath Introduces Ulaganayagan
00:03:41 - 00:04:53 - Hearing the Heart
00:04:54 - 00:05:58 - Waking Up to the World
00:05:59 - 00:06:43 - The Humbling of the Self
00:06:44 - 00:07:38 - Copying the Ancients
00:07:39 - 00:08:22 - Listen to the Heart before Google
00:08:23 - 00:09:45 - Philosophy as the Foundation of Art and Society
00:09:46 - 00:10:18 - Nostalgia and Public Affection for Kamal
00:10:19 - 00:11:00 - Aging, Performance, and Technology
00:11:02 - 00:11:54 - Acting as Behavior and 'Misbehaving on Request
00:11:55 - 00:12:34 - Philosophy of Art — For Whom?
00:12:35 - 00:13:12 - Heroes and Layers of Innovation
00:13:13 - 00:15:03 - On Inspiration, Perfection and Imperfection
00:15:04 - 00:16:20 - Evolution of Philosophy and Physicality
00:16:21 - 00:17:02 - Commercial Cinema and Lineage
00:17:03 - 00:18:00 - Obsession vs. Profession
00:18:00 - 00:18:58 - Money and Value
00:18:59 - 00:20:22 - Seriousness in Cinema
00:20:23 - 00:21:37 - Guiding the Next Generation
00:21:38 - 00:22:42 - Indian Cinema on the Global Stage
00:22:43 - 00:23:18 - Philosophical Boldness in Filmmaking
00:23:19 - 00:24:01 - Market vs Message
00:24:02 - 00:25:02 - The Aesthetic of Minimalism
00:25:03 - 00:25:52 - Kamal Haasan's Childhood
00:25:53 - 00:26:54 - Time, Discipline, and Art
00:26:55 - 00:28:01 - Death and Immortality
00:29:33 - 00:31:06 - The Gandhian Turn
00:31:07 - 00:33:22 - The Underrated Lyricist
00:33:23 - 00:34:16 - Finding Rhythm in Tamil Language
00:34:17 - 00:35:54 - War, Mothers and Emotional Universality
00:35:55 - 00:39:11 - AI, Knowledge & Limits of Intelligence
00:39:12 - 00:41:03 - Corporate Governance and Global Capitalism
00:41:04 - 00:42:06 - Cinema, Balance & Center Politics
00:42:07 - 00:44:05 - Children, Parenting & Emotional Awareness
00:44:06 - 00:45:46 - Kamal Explains Thug Life Title
00:45:47 - 00:46:43 - Thug Life and Nayakan Connection?
00:46:44 - 00:48:03 - Support Pillars in Films
00:48:04 - 00:50:34 - Kamal Haasan Praises the Technicians Behind Thug Life
00:50:35 - 00:51:16 - Gobinath Concludes the Interview
00:51:17 - 00:51:37 - Kamal Compliments Gobinath
00:51:38 - 00:51:45 - Gobinath Thanks Kamal for the Interview
00:51:46 - 00:52:16 - Show Sponsors
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