Today’s show: Jason and Alex go deep into the shocking new details about the Rippling vs. Deel corporate espionage scandal—where a self-admitted spy fed confidential product roadmaps and sales data to a rival CEO for €5K/month. Plus, they interview Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu about their bold comeback with their new “Intern” AI agent that builds entire apps from a single prompt - Jason calls it a breakthrough. And we kick off Pitch Madness with fierce Founder Friday pitch battles featuring AI podcast tools and women’s sports communities. Spy drama, next-gen tech, and raw founder energy—don’t miss it.
(0:00) Teaser: Rippling vs. Deel Espionage Case
(1:46) Podcast updates and listener engagement
(2:31) Job openings at Launch and This Week in Startups
(4:19) Rippling and Deel lawsuit details and espionage activities
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(11:31) Stolen information and the aftermath of the espionage case
(16:21) Corporate espionage vs. corporate intelligence debate
(19:38) Atlassian - Head to www.atlassian.com/startups/twist to see if you qualify for 50 free seats for 12 months.
(23:07) Board independence, whistleblower protections, and CEO behavior
(25:10) Y Combinator's culture of rule-bending
(28:41) Lemon.io - Get 15% off your first 4 weeks of developer time at lemon.io/twist
(30:02) Jesse Lu's YC experience and launch of Rabbit
(34:48) Navigating the hype cycle as a founder and RabbitOS demo
(45:02) Estate management and technology with Rabbit
(48:39) Conclusion of interview with Jesse Lu
(48:51) Launching Founder Friday pitch offs
(50:43) Pitch: Snipd - AI-powered podcast app
(53:29) Pitch: MedSimple - Medical education platform
(57:10) Pitch: Trova - Workplace connection platform
(58:45) Pitch: Osprey - Community for women in sports and entertainment
(1:05:30) Analysis and decision: MedSimple vs Snipped and Osprey vs Trova
(1:09:23) Discussion on Osprey's business model
(1:10:33) Tips for improving pitch presentations
(1:11:02) Announcement of Twist 500 competition
(1:11:46) Closing remarks and social media call to action
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