@LutheranIdentity-uj8yk
"Jerusalem is deserted Its temple has fallen down Its priests are dead, Its scepter is no more But Christ's kingdom endures And reveals itself more and more Blessed be he who came in the name of the Lord!" Swedish Lutheran Advent hymn
@billbadson7598
I can buy any parcel of land I want and call it Israel, but that does not make it Israel.
@derekmchardy8730
Amen. Prior to the 1800s I can find nobody in church history who predicted a reconstitution of geopolitical Israel without a mass turning to Christ of the Jewish people. Stephen Sizer's 'Christian Zionism ' is extremely helpful on this.
@EcclesiaInvicta
Amen The Church is the Continuation of ancient Israel! There aren't two people of God, only one, and there is absolutely no salvation outside of the Church ie. Christianity.
@Freemanchou
But we're having so much fun pretending God was planning the new Riviera of the Mediteranean.
@johnedward4759
Ezekiel 36:24 states: "For I will take you from among the nations, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land."
@ZaerusCrenden
In Daniel 9:27 (which is where we get the last 7 years and the 3.5 years of the Anti-Christ) We see that a temple will be rebuilt and the Anti-Christ will step inside to shut down the sacrifices claiming to be God - 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4. Israel has everything needed to build the Temple. Does this count?
@ro6ti
Hmmm... The Bible says God will be done with calling the Gentiles at some point and the original branch (Jews) will be called back to the Lord. This expectation from Paul isn't about individual Jews turning to Christ, since the Apostles were Jews, but the Jews as a nation coming to Christ someday. How are the Jews supposed to turn and call on the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ as a people if they aren't gathered in the land God promised Abraham their father? How does Elijah and the other witness preach to them in Jerusalem and turn them to the Lord if they aren't gathered nearby to receive the witnesses' testimony? It seems obvious that the gathering of the Jewish people back to their land after 2,000 years is an obvious move from God. Were you expecting the Jews to never return and God to never be done gathering the Gentile elect?
@Liminalplace1
Essentially the idea of "prophecy" isn't prediction, but projection. The old testament authors saw a projection of the Israelites returning to the land, they had no view of the church in their intentions. eg.Deauterommy 30-2. Part of its fulfilment is seen in the multiethnic church. But fulfilment is different from the message of the prophets.. See Dr.John Walton from Wheaton. It maybe be both. It's quite complex
@bradleymarshall5489
Amen brother
@timsanduleac1646
Is the future grafting in of the Jews a common view among Lutherans?
@talldarkhansome1
No reason? Try again
@oceanofdevotion9405
Parable of the fig Tree , haven't you read?
@james4692
How can I double like this video?!!
@richv3742
Great clip. Dr. Cooper I don’t know if you’ve already done a video on this very topic but I would like to hear the Lutheran perspective on certain end time prophecies that many evangelicals talk about such as Israel becoming a nation in 1948, the seven year tribulation, the Temple being rebuilt along with the animal sacrifices, the 70 weeks, etc.. It seems with the rise of evangelical/nondenominational churches in the United States more and more Christians are taking on this dispensational premillennial literal view of the end times. When I speak with some of my evangelical friends, they refer often to Daniel, Ezekiel, Thessalonians, and of course, Revelation. From my understanding in conversations I’ve had with evangelicals it seems if they don’t believe in these prophecies, they feel they’re rejecting the Bible, so to speak. Even though their interpretations of those scriptures are not the actual biblical view, you can’t tell them any differently. They often refute things you might say that contradict what they believe the scripture says with more misinterpreted scripture. It’s as if they’ve been brainwashed in a sense. It can be frustrating and challenging to talk about these things with many evangelicals whether it be family or friends whom you want to free of this burden.
@bernardthefourth
I disagree it looks like a direct fulfillment of prophecies. God still has a plan for Israel.
@zerphase
Not true. Depends on the Christian interpretation, and whether they believe the construction of the third temple is necessary or not for the second coming.
@robertdouglas8895
When you live in the moment asking God to show you truth, you have no need for prophesies because you are not trying to prove God was right.
@troyclegg9849