The real reason why the Herrscher of Rebirth can exist is because instead of being sealed, the Honkai is being Seele'd
Many seem to not realize that the core actually goes to Veliona (which implying it is from imaginary)but veli subconsciously rejected it.Then,the core goes to Seele and decided to choose her as it's host
1:38 i always thought that since seele became a herrscher in a bubble universe instead of the original hi3 universe she had a different source power, and thus the moon could not take hers
To be brutally honest, i love this Seele's arc more than the herrscher trio arc because of a number of reasons. Its more simplified, but does not feel cheap.
One thing i noticed about is their sig weapon, all Herrscher have 'Key' on their weapon names and 'Domain' in their PRI-ARM variants But HoRb Seele has a simple name on it just like other normal weapons
Basically the entire chapter was Did you die ? Sadly yes... BUT I LIVED!!!
Something left out was the differentiating nature of Seele's core and the cores of the Cocoon. The ones from the Cocoon were not true cores, rather projections of the Cocoon that as a result were not static in location in space, which is why Senti was unable to be used as an anchor for the bubble worlds and they needed another option such as a SoQ born Herrscher or the Cocoon itself in the first place. Seele as a Herrscher is more similar to Herrschers from GGZ. In GGZ each Herrscher core is an independent one that with no relation to others. Seele's core has no connection to other cores and is its own static point in space that does not change, which is why it was able to be used for anchoring the worlds. Birthing the core in SoQ allowed it to be seperete from other systems that would prevent its independence, which is why the option was put on the table. Another thing is that it has been stated that the Authority of the Herrscher of Death can manipulate souls to some extent, and while it can not bring them back after they have degraded and are no more, if they are still relatively in tact they can be latched onto a body to survive, which is how Seele brought everyone back.
The fact that it still needs to be stated so many times that the authority of Death cannot actually resurrect people concerns me.
This is a great video that highlights the whole purpose behind the Dance of Life and Death story arc very well. I think it's a shame that a subset of fans write the whole arc and Seele's development off as being "too little too late" just because it didn't happen during Part 1. Because the developers made it very clear during the HoRB development interview that they always KNEW that Seele was going to become a Herrscher, the question was just how to get there. Sure it took a lot of catharsis and it's a shame it took so long at all, but I think it happening during a story that Seele could be the central figure of, a story where she actually felt relevant was for the best. One of the biggest issues I had with Seele all throughout Part 1 is that it didn't feel like the writers could figure out a way to naturally include her in a lot of the story. As Kiana, Mei, and Bronya matured, the history of the world + the true nature of the Honkai and the Flamechasers were revealed, it just never felt like there was a place for Seele to truly shine anymore. Until now, and I'm more than satisfied that she finally could. Now the question is if Dark Seele will get an upgraded battlesuit as well or if Starchasm Nyx is going to be it for her.
I’m just glad seele gets the attention she deserves
Seele is the best plus she's down so bad for Bronya that she cheated death multiple times you can't beat this girl
I agree on what you said in this video, however, when seele was giving bodies to those that ''died'' Senti rejected the body and gave two reasons, the first was because said body simply didn't belong to her, the second was that leaving aside their preferences they are of opposing natures due to Senti being born from the cocoon and Seele from the sea (not sure if she means only Sa system or something else). This leads me to believe that even if Seele is an Imaginary Herrcher her Quanta ''nature'' has not disappeared and is ''integrated'' in her Imaginary authority.
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Thank you for the explaination, especially on the Sa part, since people are still thinking that Vita is actually the real Sa. I love how the development of two Seeles are almost opposites of each other. I’d say Light Seele’s development was more subtle since it went over the course of the story (from Ch. 23, waking up alone on the moon and made her way helping the people in New Atra, to the latest arc). It showed us that Light Seele is smart, dependable, and brave; very different from the girl we encountered back in Ch. 12. She accepted that she was weak and still needed help (from Dark Seele) while also continued to improve herself. While Dark Seele had one theme and it was acceptance. The first time we met her, she was intimidating, ruthless, and violent; but now we know she wasn’t always like that. Dark Seele is anxious, has low self-esteem (and self-worth if I may add), pessimistic, and childish (lol). We always got the impression that Dark Seele is more mature and independent when it’s actually the other way around. Her whole world revolves around Seele (heck, her main goal was to keep Seele alive, no matter the cost) and when that’s taken away from her, it’s like losing a part of herself. She doesn’t see herself more than just Light Seele’s shadow, while Light Seele has always treated her as her own person and wanted to give her the same life she has now. I’ll stop here, I could write pages about these two lmao. Thank you for always providing us with very well-made videos!
So she is still like other Herrschers but with a different origin, Convergent Evolution is the only good analogy to explain. So she is still an Imaginary Type, however for balancing purposes Hoyo had to change her to PSY. The reason is actually simple because IMG is neutral against the OG types, if she's IMG she would have the ability to brute force all Hare's bosses, which will make her irrelevant (but still meta for Top Score) since HoRb can just brute force her bosses, not only that she has to be PSY so she is heavily countered by Hare's bosses. If she's BIO she will still be able to brute force it. This also applies if she's QUA as well, as QUA is also neutral against the OG 3 types.
For the gameplay standpoint, this also explains why her weapon doesn't follow the format of "Key of ___" (normal) and "Domain of ___" (PRI-Arm upgrade). Apart from this, there are a few things I would like to add from several points in this video that may give you an idea of your future videos. First, the Honkai itself. As far as we know and agree with, Honkai is actually being siphoned to the moon by Kiana in order to allow Earth recover after Project Stigma and finding a way to make Honkai into a new source of reneweable and clean energy. Meaning the most popular theory of "Kiana sacrificed herself to seal the Honkai" is officially debunked, and Kiana can communicating with her friends and loved ones just fine... unless something wrong happens to her. Then again, this ties with the theme of fate and future in the game where someone's future isn't set in stone, and their actions have the potential to change it. For better or worse. Second, and perhaps the most important, Sa herself. Especially understanding what she really wants. Even though we are still really unsure about Sa is, what is certain that she is likely to be set to become a major threat that equally, if much worse than the Honkai; provided if she makes her movement in APHO or Part 2 storyline, or even better, both. Her backstory in Chapter 39 really shows what an opposite to what happened to transhuman characters from earth (i.e. Kiana, Mei, Bronya, Seele, etc.): out of sheer desperation and desire to "persevere and going above and beyond the Honkai", she will giving up everything in the past and throwing away her own sense of humanity to become a godlike entity, and destroying countless bubble worlds to empower herself, which makes her no different than the Honkai she and her former Venusian coworkers faced. This is the first time we see a victim of Honkai willing to cast aside her humanity and committing countless cruelties upon others. There are two words to describe her current state, and that is "transhuman treachery". That's exactly what Sa is doing: transcend into an entity that equals to Honkai, chooses to do something no different than the Honkai. Also, with the revelations of Sa is the true master of the Sky People, it's possible that the invasion of Sky People on earth in APHO was her doing, while Void Archives only serves as an intermediary to the proper world. And considering what happened to St. Fountain civilians that mysteriously disappeared, it's likely that Sa erased any and all of them, just like what happened to Senti and Kira, then sending the Sky People scouts to scoop out the remaining Honkai energy while observing that no one will hinder her plans to implant her "rules" on earth. Lastly, just because Sa is weaker than the Cocoon, doesn't mean it can't evolve. It's possible by the events of APHO, she manages to reach the proper world and starts implanting her "rules" on HI3's earth.
Here's what I learned: Cocoon = C++ = Herrschers Sa "Vita" = C# = "HER"rschers ? ? ?
Think about it, Dark Seele's best new friend is... technically a child herself. Nice summarize. I just want to add that "Singularity" can be understood as a point with so much energy that it can't be observed, and it no longer follows the rules in the current dimension, just like a real-life black hole. In Hoyoverse, a Singularity's real position is on a higher dimension. Hence, the real Herscher cores have their own unique location on a higher dimension, and their appearance on a 3D plane is also a projection or Anchor point, that's why they can appear in another place/individual right away. Rather than Herschers "owning" a core, it's more like they are authorized to interact with it.
I came here to understand more about Horb, i stayed because he basically explaied the whole chapter. Thank again for those detailed explainations.
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