@keyaxedits
i read the odyssey and iliad at 6 😭 like the og version and that’s how i got into the riordanverse
@hindymarkowitz1340
That is absolutely beautiful. there ar many stories in my culture, we use them to learn lessons about life and the world. Legend, myth, folklore, all these things that can be used in so many ways to impact so many lives. May we continue to share these stories with eachother in the hopes that they will better the world!
@PennesinoTheGreat
You are probably my favorite epic cast member, next to jorge, also I love your song gladiators!!! You are awesome!!
@jananikjha
taken from a podcast I recorded with some friends a while back! nothing I love more than yapping Greek mythology 🥹
@thebumblebeewitch
There's a song by Cosmo Sheldrake called The Moss that sort of at least to me sounds like he's saying that we can't learn morals from science and facts, we need myths
@cat_demon
The Hamilton musical
@WateverWatever04
The pilgrims are a story, no? Like the pilgrims were real people in the same way that Odysseus might have based on a real king. The pilgrams weren't actually fleeing religious persecution and they didn't shake hands and make friends with indigenous people. They were religious extremists who chose to become colonizers in order to continue their religious practices without interference. In the same way that the first king of Rome wasn't raised by wolves but that is still the founding myth of the empire, the pilgrims we're definitely not these mythological kind good people, but there's still the founding story. I think the magical interference is based of the religion of the time. So Odysseus fights a cyclops and Romulus is the son of Ares/Mars. Similarly, what we get with the pilgrims is the morals of today 'magically' superimposed on to these people (who were probably by-and-large pretty bad people by today's standards). Bc America's current religious beliefs don't include cyclopes and magical wolves. But they do allow for made-up perfect people who created a perfect shining city on a hill. At least imo idk maybe I'm just yapping to yap 💀
@christypham3386
The closest US myth that I can think of is Paul Bunyan, Johnny Apple seed, the headless ghostman.
@adrasthe314
Ok, so bare with me, because I spent way too many hours today writing in French about the function greek myths had in the context of Ilion to be able to form proper english sentences without sounding like a prick, but I really love this reflexion and I kinda wanna discuss it, if that makes sense? But like, with nuances, the Hellens mostly thought of their myths as real history (somewhat embellished, of course), and its has (especially for the homeric cycle) some form of historicalness (the most well known example of that being Odysseus' helmet). In that sense, I'd argue that Americans do have their own mythology (especially with figures such as the pilgrims or the cowboys, that have acquired a greater-than-life dimension), but its just way closer to the historic reality (both in terms of time and in terms of accuratness) than greek myths are, and thus loose some part of the storied (im hoping its the right word here) value ancient myths have kept. 🤔 That being said though, I'm interested in hearing more of your thoughts on epics and mythology; is there somewhere with can find the lecture you gave at harvard? (Also I feel the need to mention that I'm a classicist, not just some rando of the internet trying to sound smart, and I'm actually really interested in, like, talking more about this with people because its a fascinating thing that you noticed; and my first language is not english so I'm like pretty clumsy with words at times :") )
@magnoliaopal
A lot of this comes down to 3 things 1. The big one is the overstatement of Christmas and other Christian holidays like Easter. Odysseus was obviously well celebrated past his initial lifespan as evident by statues and other thins preserved from at least the time of Homer. We've really not done a lot to encourage the likes of Paul Bunyan, Johnny Appleseed and John Henry's story being retold and remixed in the way the ancient hero's stories were. 2. Racism. Yeah yeah we here this a million times but there are hundreds of epic stories they're just not the "white man's being epic" story. John Henry is a good example. Man beats a machine by a good margin using nothing but hammers and the sweat on his brow? Super interesting story. Black man does it and people go: 😬 yeah maybe well tell it once. Native stories which have some genuinely amazing characters are all but lost to those who don't look for them. 3. Accessibility. Flat out I had to google a couple stories of America of old, yet i remember all the stories of Christmas from school, and Th Headless Horseman of Sleepy Hollow I remember because i had a teacher that came from the area where the story originated.
@FirebreathingPara
i tied my self to echo and the daffodil myth
@PeachesTheBangkokCat
This is so deep.
@phoebesmith9089
Oh honey, there’s a lot of “story” involved in the founding fathers schtick that we adhere to as Americans!!
@Moth-eatenMoss
Does anyone feel that odd attachment to random Greek hero’s or characters? Mine is personally Paris.
@Epicc013
We got the jersey devil i guess
@HeeshaChandrasekaran
Can u make a song about hesitant the goddess of the hearth ❤
@aaishaismail5717
Oooooohhh!!!
@ElleH-k3i
Hamilton
@khandinmccolley8580
Hi I'm the girl w ppl in her head. The United States is new AF. I will create y'all's epics. I'm Murugan. Or was. .. unless this demon kills me first. I almost died already. It possessed all my loved ones and everything.
@FallenSaint7